Posts by Sea Breeze

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Merry Christmas

by jhine in

i don't think that it's too early for my annual merry christmas thread .

merry christmas everyone.

jan .

Sea Breeze

Merry Christmas Jan!

No, it's not too early. I said my first one yeserday in an email. Were you a good girl this past year?

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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

by solameguy12 in

so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

but i don’t want to ask them my question.

but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

Sea Breeze

They reject it because if it’s true, the Eden account can’t be literal history…
…therefore, Adam and Eve weren’t actual real people, therefore the “Original Sin” (whatever one thinks it is) didn’t actually happen, therefore Jesus’ “ransom sacrifice” wasn’t necessary…

@Vidiot,

Even if there was no 'original sin", you have your own sin that you have personal experience with. So, your logic is a non-sequitur.

By the way, what makes you think Evolution is true? I put up several documented cases of substantial evolution fraud in previous posts aimed at deceiving the public in museums and universities.. Where is your outrage at those obvious deceptions? Do you want evolution to be true or do you want truth regardless?

By the way, If you are a product of random mutations over billions or years, how could you be sure of what logic even is? Whey would it be the same in England as it is Hawaii? Why even ackknowledge known laws of logic if they are arbitrary. Logic itself is inconsistent with a naturalism wordview becuse it is conceptual, rooted in the nature of God.

Christians have a basis of acknowledging logic because God is the source of all truth and we are made in his image. You have to borrow from the Christian worldview to even argue against it.

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My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

by Sea Breeze in

a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

Sea Breeze

We have seen pretty pictures from the JW telescope, , the real work is yet to come.

I agree. And I fully intend on watching this closely.

Because secular cosmologists find a universe they cannot explain with the BB theory (or the steady-state) theory, they make the incredible claim that the trillions of stars and galaxies that we observe are not original. They imagine that there has been a least three universes that have run out of gas, exploded, and reconstituted themselves into what we now see.

All this without a shred of evidence of the hypothetical original stars.... no matter how "far back" they look.

This is the real elephant in the room no one is talking about. The perfectly shaped spiral galaxies observed from the dawn of time, together with their brigntness, size and frequency is just icing on the cake for the Creationist.

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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

by solameguy12 in

so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

but i don’t want to ask them my question.

but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

Sea Breeze

DJW,

I think you would agree that if you are a "born-in", had our ancestors believed God, they would not have put their trust in the Governing Body and that would have saved us much tragedy.

Psalm 146:3 - Do not trust in...in mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.

Jeremiah 17:5 - Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind

Isaiah 2:22 - Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?

The choice to not believe God is directly responsible for wiping out 5 generations of my family. So, I am very reluctant to go against what God says. I've seen the devastating consequences.

Correct thinking and sound logic make the decision to believe God fully acceptable to me.

The blatant deceptions of evolutionists are simply breath-taking. The video below is just one of many examples of why the biblical advice on not putting our ultimate trust in men is wise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObX3UdrKvZo&t=136s

By the way, whale fossils are widely touted by evolutionists as the best evidence they have to support molecules-to-man evolution. Incredible.

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Jesus as 'The mighty + almighty God'

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.

they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..

Sea Breeze

@SBF - Don't you believe God existed before Jesus? Why reject the obvious and search for a solution clearly outside of scripture?

You are not addressing the bible's solution to the "problem". I guess your silence means that you do not believe that we are constructed of soul, spirit and body as the bible teaches, is that ok to assume that?

That is why you want to takes sides on whether or not Jesus was less than God. The scriptures clearly teach both equality and less than equality. The solution the bible offers on the nature of man resolves this "problem" that modern man has who is infected with Materialism.

God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

BOTH positions are clearly taught here.... as in a dozen other places including early church writings.

The angel-god of the WT didn't bleed for you. But, God did.

"feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood." - Acts 20: 28

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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

by solameguy12 in

so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

but i don’t want to ask them my question.

but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

Sea Breeze

Genesis-as-literal-history is too deeply baked into WT cosmology.

@ Vidiot

The WT does not teach a literal Genesis history. They are in the same "billions-of-years" camp as atheists. When a person leaves the WT, rarely do they shed the billion-of-years indoctrination they received as a child from the WT and their partents.

See the article:

"Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe in Creationism? No".

"Jehovah’s Witnesses have no objection to ...the earth...be[ing] billions of years old."

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Jesus as 'The mighty + almighty God'

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.

they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..

Sea Breeze

given the description of Jesus here, and elsewhere, it makes sense to understand Jesus as an angel

No, it doesn't. Your WT heresy is in clear conflict with not only early church believers but scripture itself:

Heb. 1 -

For to which of the angels did He at any time say:

“You are My Son;
today I have become Your Father”

Or again,

“I will be a Father to Him,
and He shall be a Son to Me”[b]?

6 And again, when He brings the firstborn into the world, He says:

“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”

7 Of the angels He says:

“He makes His angels spirits,
and His servants a flame of fire.”[d]

8 But to the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, lasts forever and ever;

You got the wrong Jesus SlimBoyFat. Your angel-god cannot save you from judgement.

Do you believe that man is a tri-partite being as the bible teaches? If not, that is where the problem starts.

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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

by Vanderhoven7 in

what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

Sea Breeze

People must check with the WT to find out if somethig is right or wrong.

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Jesus as 'The mighty + almighty God'

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.

they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..

Sea Breeze

Phil 2:5-11 indicates that Jesus started out as an angel

@SlimBoyFat - Where does it say Jesus was an angel in this passage:

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

The idea that he was God and man at the same time came in the fifth century at Chalcedon.

Wrong. The evidence supports otherwise.

Ignatius who was a disciple of the Apostle John wrote this:

There is only one physician, who is both flesh and spirit, born and unborn, God in man, true life in death, both from Mary and from God, first subject to suffering and then beyond it, Jesus Christ our Lord.4

For our God, Jesus the Christ, was conceived by Mary according to God’s plan, both from the seed of David and of the Holy Spirit.

Clearly, there was no confusion about who Jesus was among the early followers and teachers of Christianity.

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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

by solameguy12 in

so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

but i don’t want to ask them my question.

but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

Sea Breeze

PP,

Two chimps from the same tribe are further apart genetically that we are from Neanderthals. End of conversation. I am skeptical of "science" authority figures. May have something to do with the WT wiping out 5 genertions of my family with loads of arrogance and BS.. I don't know.

The sad fact is that their is a long history of missing link frauds that have been put forth by biased evolutionary advocates. If you had a friend who lied to you over and over again, eventually you just wouldn’t give much credibility to anything they said. The missing links put forth look real scientific and respectable with their big names like ardipithecus ramidus but dig a little deeper and you realize there isn’t any real support for what they are preaching. Here’s some more examples:

Ramapithecus, found in 1976, which was only the fragment of a jaw and several teeth was put forth as a missing link and turned out to be an orangutan.

Javaman or Homo Erectus was a Gibbon monkey skull and a human leg bone found 50 feet away by Eugène Dubois. This was a hoax which Eugène confessed to before he passed away. He had also found two human skulls right nearby which he had hidden in order to make his Homo Erectus fossil seem more plausible.

Piltdown Man was a human skull combined with the jaw of an orangutan collected in 1912 from a gravel pit at Piltdown, a village near Uckfield, East Sussex, in England. The teeth were filed down to make the fossil look more human. This was a fraud that fooled evolutionists for 40 years.

Nebraska Man was made up based off of one tooth found in 1921!! Turned out to be the tooth of an extinct pig.

These frauds are so preposterous it boggles my mind. But they linger in texbooks and museums for decades deceiving the public. Over and over, I have seen "scientists" falsify data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POMjpTSk3no&t=121s

They just make stuff up and feel completely self-righteous in doing so. They know what is good for the rest of us.... kinda like like how we used to lie for the Watchtower. "No, we're not here to change your religion. We're just here to promote bible reading". We knew what was good for them, right?

It is not the early hominids we should be watching. The contemporary ones are much more interesting to study. They are known to lie, deceive and cheat. And, feel completely justified in doing so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObX3UdrKvZo&t=136s